{"id":1006,"date":"2012-09-25T20:16:42","date_gmt":"2012-09-26T01:16:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hushbeck.com\/blog\/?p=1006"},"modified":"2012-09-25T20:16:42","modified_gmt":"2012-09-26T01:16:42","slug":"energion-roundtable-week-6-responses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hushbeck.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/energion-roundtable-week-6-responses\/","title":{"rendered":"Energion Roundtable Week 6 Responses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This week\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/energion.net\/2012\/09\/the-great-energion-political-roundtable\/\">Energion Roundtable<\/a> question it seems that one thing <a href=\"https:\/\/arsenalofliberty.blogspot.com\/\">Arthur Sido<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bobcornwall.com\/2012\/09\/energion-political-roundable-q-6.html\">Bob Cornwall<\/a>,, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.allanbevere.com\/2012\/09\/energion-political-roundtable-medicare.html#more\">Allan R. Bevere<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2012\/09\/energion-political-roundtable-question-6\/\">Joel Watts<\/a> and myself all agree on is that this is a real problem and that none of the candidates have a completely satisfactory plan.\u00a0 As Bevere put it,\u00a0 \u201cThis is truly a complex and serious problem involving a complex and serious answer.\u201d\u00a0 This is not the sort of thing that can be fully worked out in a campaign.<\/p>\n<p>One question I would have for Watts, Bevere and Cornwall, is just what is Obama\u2019s plan?\u00a0 The coming collapse in either 2024, (or without the double counting 2016) is based on Obamacare being in place.\u00a0 Obama may not be proposing to destroy Medicare, but just what is his plan to avoid the coming bankruptcy?<\/p>\n<p>Cornwall writes of the Republican plan that it would turn Medicare, \u00a0\u00a0\u201cinto a voucher system, that most experts believe won\u2019t keep up with inflation.\u201d\u00a0 Watts also questions this saying that it \u201cwill sooner than later destroy the safety net for the elderly.\u201d Setting aside Cornwall\u2019s \u201cmost experts\u201d comment, that still leaves a question for them: If you do not believe that the government can be trusted to spend the money needed to pay for the \u201cvoucher,\u201d what make you think they will spend the money to pay for the coverage?\u00a0 Medicare already denies coverage at a higher rate than private insurance, and pays far less,such that doctors are ceasing to accept new Medicare patients.\u00a0\u00a0 If you cannot find a doctor who will take you as a patient, or if you can, they deny your claim, what good is the current system?<\/p>\n<p>If Government is in complete control, the only way to limit costs is some form of rationing, either though reducing payments, or denying claims. \u00a0I know that supporters claim efficacy of a single payer system, but I just do not believe that is actually possible. After all, if government was so good at running health care, Medicare would not be in the mess it is.\u00a0 And somehow the argument that they made such a mess of things with Medicare, so we should give them all of health care just does not work for me.<\/p>\n<p>Sido rejects both plans, preferring that we block grant Medicare to the states. Romney supports block granting Medicaid, but not Medicare. (\u201cWhy\u201d would make a great question for the debates.) While that has some appeal, I prefer the premium support model, as that gives more choice to the individual, and after all this is essentially the same model that Congress has. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Premium support is only a first step.\u00a0 There must be additional steps to ensure that people have a real choice and that there is real competition, such as the ability to purchase insurance across state lines, which Romney and Republicans support. (This was a particular problem for our small company when we had employees in both California and Wisconsin.) \u00a0If people are given real choice; if there is real competition;\u00a0 and if the health care system is allowed to explore innovative ways of delivering quality health care services at lower costs, the system will move into balance and inefficiency will be driven out,\u00a0 just like in all the other areas where market forces are allowed to operat.\u00a0 With prices under control, the necessary task of dealing with those in need would be far easier.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week\u2019s Energion Roundtable question it seems that one thing Arthur Sido, Bob Cornwall,, Allan R. 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