{"id":838,"date":"2012-02-15T11:01:06","date_gmt":"2012-02-15T17:01:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hushbeck.com\/blog\/?p=838"},"modified":"2012-02-15T11:01:06","modified_gmt":"2012-02-15T17:01:06","slug":"the-epistles-of-john-living-in-truth-and-love-1-john-29-212","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hushbeck.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/the-epistles-of-john-living-in-truth-and-love-1-john-29-212\/","title":{"rendered":"The Epistles of John: Living in Truth and Love.  1 John 2:9-2:12"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Week 19:\u00a0\u00a0Feb 5, 2012<\/p>\n<p>Last time we saw how John was expanding on the commandments, in particular that we are to love one another. John now demonstrates his point with another claim from his opponents.\u00a0 This is not really a new claim; it is similar to those he has already dealt (see 1:6-10), but here he focuses the claim a bit more, in light of the commandment to love one other and he uses it to sum up his argument so far. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Study<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">i.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 To be in the light is to love (2:9-11)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">1.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Claim (2:9)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0a.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0Counter-Claim (2:10)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">2.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Restatement (2:11)<\/p>\n<p><strong>9 &#8211; The person who says that he is in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<strong>\u00a0\u00a0<em> The person who says that he is in the light<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 John returns to Claim\/Refutation\/Counter teaching pattern.\u00a0 Here the claim to be in the light was a key claim made by his opponents.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 but hates his brother<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 While they claim to be in the light, their actions tell a far different story. But just what does John mean by Hate?\u00a0 At first this might lead some people into a false sense of complacency.\u00a0 After all, they may claim, I don\u2019t hate anyone.\u00a0 But this would miss John\u2019s point.\u00a0 It must be remembered that John normally writes in stark terms with no middle ground.\u00a0 Thus he speaks of Light\/darkness, Life\/Death, Truth\/Lie, and here Love\/Hate.\u00a0 For John there is a sense that there is no middle ground.\u00a0 Yet this is more than mere black and white thinking. If we will help someone we love, but not others, then there is no real difference with being neutral and hating.\u00a0 Either way we don\u2019t help. Given the importance of the commandment to love one another (2:7-8) one cannot ignore the commandment and still walk in the light.<\/p>\n<p><strong>10 &#8211; The person who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no reason for him to stumble. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Counter teaching<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 To love one another is to live (\u03bc\u03ad\u03bd\u03b5\u03b9:\u00a0 to remain ) in the light.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>and there is no reason for him to stumble. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 John expanses on the light\/dark metaphor.\u00a0 If you are walking darkness, you are in danger of stumbling.\u00a0 The Greek here is somewhat ambiguous and could refer to having nothing that would cause brother to stumble.\u00a0 But since the context is focused on the person and not brother I think the translation, for him to stumble is best. The best way to avoid sin, is to remain in the light.<\/p>\n<p><strong>11 &#8211; But the person who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks[1] in the darkness. He does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Having laid out the true teaching John now recaps and expanse on the position of his opponents. \u00a0\u00a0There is a sense of conclusion here as he ties the various themes together as he continues the metaphor to emphasize the danger. It is one thing to be in the dark, it is another to try and walk in the darkness.\u00a0 \u00a0It is hard in this not to see John asking \u201cWhy would you follow these people?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>because the darkness has blinded his eyes.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is a key point.\u00a0 Sin not only separates us from God, it blinds us to the truth. While his opponents may claim to have the truth, they are in darkness.<\/p>\n<h4>d.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Our Position (2:12-17)<\/h4>\n<h5>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 i.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Our position in Christ (2:12-14)<\/h5>\n<blockquote><p>&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This section marks a stark change, not only in content but in style.\u00a0 This section is divided up into two sets of three statement with the following characteristics:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>o\u00a0\u00a0 The first 3 statements start with \u201cI write to you\u2026 because\u201d\u00a0 (\u03b3\u03c1\u03ac\u03c6\u03c9 \u1f51\u03bc\u1fd6\u03bd,\u2026, \u1f45\u03c4\u03b9 \u00a0\u2013 present active indicative<\/li>\n<li>o\u00a0\u00a0 The second 3 statements start with \u201cI wrote to you\u2026 because\u201d\u00a0 (\u1f14\u03b3\u03c1\u03b1\u03c8\u03b1 \u1f51\u03bc\u1fd6\u03bd\u2026, \u1f45\u03c4\u03b9 \u2013 aorist active indicative)<\/li>\n<li>o\u00a0\u00a0 Each section has a line written to Children (\u03c4\u03b5\u03ba\u03bd\u03af\u03b1\/\u03c0\u03b1\u03b9\u03b4\u03af\u03b1), to Fathers (\u03c0\u03b1\u03c4\u03ad\u03c1\u03b5\u03c2) and to young men (\u03bd\u03b5\u03b1\u03bd\u03af\u03c3\u03ba\u03bf\u03b9) in that order.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This raises the following questions about this section:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Why is this section here?\n<ul>\n<li>There are some clear links to what has been discussed so far.\u00a0 Thus for example, verse 2:12 \u2013 <em><strong>because your sins have been forgiven<\/strong><\/em> is very close to verse 1:9 \u2013 <em><strong>he forgives us for those sins. <\/strong><\/em>But there is also some new material (verse 13b \u2013 <em><strong>you have overcome the evil one<\/strong><\/em>) as well, which foreshadows themes that will be taken up later in the epistle.<\/li>\n<li>There are no immediate grammatical links to what has just been discussed, except possibly that John often begins transition with \u201cLittle Children\u201d or similar phrases.<\/li>\n<li>Each of these statements can be seen as contrasting with John\u2019s opponents.\u00a0 Each statement could be read equally as well by inserting \u201cunlike them\u201d just after the word <em><strong>because<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0e.g., V 12 &#8211; <em><strong>because [unlike them] your sins have been forgiven<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<li>Thus I believe that since John has written about his opponents so far in stark black and white terms he is doing two things here. First he is marking a transition from a focus on his opponents to a focus on believers, while at the same time he is making it clear that he does not see his critical statements until this point as referring to his readers.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Why are the two sections here so similar? \/ Why the change from \u201cI write\u201d in section 1 to \u201cI wrote\u201d in section 2?\n<ul>\n<li>Option 1 \u2013 Since Greek often uses repetition for emphasis, this could just be for emphasis.\u00a0 If this is the case, then there is no real significant change in meaning from \u201cI write\u201d to \u201cI wrote.\u201d\u00a0 In defense of this, both phrases are found in Greek letters referring to the letter in which they appear.\u00a0 So this could just be stylistic change to avoid repetition.<\/li>\n<li>Option 2 \u2013 Some argue that this refers to different parts of the current letter. \u00a0\u201cI write\u201d refers to the letter from that point forward, whereas \u201cI wrote\u201d refers to the earlier part of the letter.\u00a0 The main problem with this theory is that the content of these sections do not match this division of the letter.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0 Option 3 \u2013 Others argue that these sections refer to different letters.\u00a0 \u201cI write\u201d refers to this letter.\u00a0 \u201cI wrote\u201d would then refer to an earlier letter, possibly 2 John or the Gospel of John.\u00a0\u00a0 One problem here is that 2 John and Gospel don\u2019t seem to fit the statements. This is not fatal to this theory, as it could refer to a letter that has been lost.\u00a0 This is not impossible.\u00a0 1 Cor 5:9, 11 seems to refer to an earlier letter and 2 Cor 2:4\u2019s reference to \u201cThe sorrowful letter\u201d most likely is not referring to 1 Corinthians.\u00a0\u00a0 So it is possible that \u201cI wrote\u201d refers to a letter that we no longer have.\u00a0 However, more problematic for this theory is that much of the material in the section \u201cI wrote\u201d is also in this letter.<\/li>\n<li>Option 4 \u2013 The finally possibility we will consider is that the first section was a common statement or liturgical saying that his readers knew, while the second was his re-statement of it, modified to emphasize that this this was his view. \u00a0Like possibility 3, the main problem here is that we do not know of any such statement.\u00a0 There is also the problem of why such a common statement would start with \u201cI write\u2026\u201d\u00a0 One possibility is that the actual statement may have said something like \u201cthe apostles write\u2026\u201d<\/li>\n<li>I think that the answer is most likely either 1 or 4. \u00a0I would I lean a little towards 4, since the repetition strikes me as modifying something that they already knew, but the problems with this view do trouble me. \u00a0This would not have been an issue for the original recipients, but is not lost with the passage of time. \u00a0However, since with both 1 and 4 the overall purpose is for emphasis, the actual answer is not all that important to understanding the intent of the passage.\u00a0\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>What is the significance of the Children, Fathers, and Young men?\ufffd\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0The first question we need to answer is whether this refers to just three distinct groups or one overall group with two subgroups.\u00a0 Three distinct groups would at first seem the most-straight forward.\u00a0 In this view the three groups are either age groups, or they are metaphorical groups.\u00a0 If age groups they could refer to physical age, or spiritual age, i.e., how long they have been in the faith.\u00a0\u00a0 Others however think they may be metaphorical in that they refer to the qualities of the stages of life that all Christians should have. The main problem with all of these views is that children, fathers, young men, is a very unusual; one would expect either fathers, young men, children; or children, young men fathers.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Because of the unusual order, some have suggested that this is really one overall group with two subgroups.\u00a0\u00a0 The overall group is children, and thus refers to all believers.\u00a0 Within this group there are two subgroups:\u00a0 Fathers and Young men. \u00a0As with 3 distinct age groups, the two subgroups could be either actual or spiritual age. The advantage is that this would address the problem of order.\u00a0 Other suggest that, rather than age groups, \u00a0this is a reference to leadership where Father = elders and Young men = deacons. Still other suggest that Fathers = Leaders while young men = rest of the church.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>I believe that children refers to all Christians, while Fathers = Leaders and young men = rest of the church.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>12 &#8211; I am writing to you, little children,<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>because your sins have been forgiven<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>on account of his name. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Clause 1.1<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>little children \u2013 \u03c4\u03b5\u03ba\u03bd\u03af\u03b1<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is John\u2019s normal way of referring to believers. \u00a0For example, in his gospel\u00a0 1:12 says,\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<em><strong>He gave them authority to become God\u2019s children.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0 In his letters he writes\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<em><strong>\u2026hear that my children are living according to the truth<\/strong><\/em> (3 John 1:4); (2 John 1:1) <em><strong>The chosen lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; <\/strong><\/em>\u00a0(1 John 2:1)\u00a0 <em><strong>My little children, I\u2019m writing these things to \u2026<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>your sins have been forgiven<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is similar to 1:9\u00a0\u00a0 <em><strong>If we make it our habit to confess our sins, in his faithful righteousness he forgives us for those sins and cleanses us from all unrighteousness.<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0 But there is a key differences.\u00a0 <em><strong>forgives <\/strong><\/em>in 1:9\u00a0 was presented as hypothetical because of the if\/then construction of the statement.\u00a0 Here, however, there is nothing hypothetical about it.\u00a0 The word translated <em><strong>have been forgiven <\/strong><\/em>(\u1f00\u03c6\u03ad\u03c9\u03bd\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9) is in the perfect tense.\u00a0 It refers to a completed action with ongoing results.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>on account of his name\u00a0 (\u03b4\u03b9\u1f70 \u03c4\u1f78 \u1f44\u03bd\u03bf\u03bc\u03b1 \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is through the name of Jesus that we are saved. This is one of those phrases that Christians say but often do not think very much about.\u00a0 In the ancient world, the concept of Name equaled power and authority.\u00a0\u00a0 For example, look at how name is used in Acts 4:7\u00a0 <em><strong>They made Peter and John stand in front of them and began asking, \u201cBy what power or by what name did you do this?\u201d\u00a0 <\/strong><\/em>We can know we have been forgiven because it rest on the power and authority of God.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">To further expand on the concept of name and how we often skip over well known verses, consider\u00a0 Matt 28:19-20, which \u00a0says,<em><strong> Therefore, as you go, disciple people in all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, \u00a0teaching them to obey everything that I\u2019ve commanded you.<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0 This is often seen as just a verse on missions, but in reality the command here is not to go, but to make disciples.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Another issue here is the word <em><strong>Baptizing<\/strong><\/em>, which is a transliteration of the word \u03b2\u03b1\u03c0\u03c4\u03af\u03b6\u03bf\u03bd\u03c4\u03b5\u03c2: to wash, purify, or immerse.\u00a0 Since it transliterated, most see this as the ritual of baptism.\u00a0 But is that what is intended here?\u00a0 Consider the verse if we translated it using the meaning of immersion:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong><em>Therefore, as you go, disciple people in all nations, immersing them in the power and authority of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey everything that I\u2019ve commanded you.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">What could be a better description of making disciples than to immerse them in the power and authority of God while teaching them to obey his commandments?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><em><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\">Questions and Discussion. <\/span><\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The discussion this week centered on the question of loving and hating our brother. What does this really ask us to do?\u00a0 One interesting question was what about helping a brother or sister, when you really do not want to or when you still hold a grudge against them? While of course it would be better to always act with a pure heart, I think the question really comes down to why, in the end, did you act?\u00a0 Acting out of obedience to God, even a reluctant obedience, is still obedience.\u00a0 I think it is safe to say that obedience is always better than disobedience.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>If you have question or comments about the class, feel free to send me an email at<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"mailto:elgin@hushbeck.com\"><em><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">elgin@hushbeck.com<\/span><\/em><\/a><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>and be sure to put \u201cEpistles of John\u201d in the header.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.consider.org\/blog\/?p=227\"><em><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">See here for references and more background on the class<\/span><\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Scripture taken from the Holy Bible: International Standard Version<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. Copyright \u00a9 1996-2008 by The ISV Foundation. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED INTERNATIONALLY. Used by permission.<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.isv.org\/\"><em><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">www.isv.org<\/span><\/em><\/a><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Note: Some places I have modify the text from the ISV version. Passages that I have modified have been noted with and * by the verse number and the ISV text is included in a footnote.<\/em><\/p>\n<div><em>\u00a0<\/em><span style=\"font-size: small;\">[1] ISV : lives<\/span><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/div>\n<hr size=\"1\" noshade=\"noshade\" \/>\n<p><em>Footnotes:<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Week 19:\u00a0\u00a0Feb 5, 2012 Last time we saw how John was expanding on the commandments, in particular that we are to love one another. 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