{"id":882,"date":"2012-04-02T17:37:00","date_gmt":"2012-04-02T23:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hushbeck.com\/blog\/?p=882"},"modified":"2012-04-02T17:37:00","modified_gmt":"2012-04-02T23:37:00","slug":"the-epistles-of-john-living-in-truth-and-love-1-john-222","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hushbeck.com\/blog\/2012\/04\/the-epistles-of-john-living-in-truth-and-love-1-john-222\/","title":{"rendered":"The Epistles of John: Living in Truth and Love.  1 John 2:22-3a"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Week 24: \u00a0Mar 18, 2012<\/p>\n<p>Having pointed out to his readers that they have an anointing and know all things, John defines who cannot be trusted.<\/p>\n<p>Study<\/p>\n<h4>f.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why John Writes (2:21-27)<\/h4>\n<h5>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 ii.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Those who deny are the liars (2:22-23)<\/h5>\n<p><strong>22-3a \u2013 Who is a liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Messiah?[1] The person who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist. \u00a0No one who denies the Son has the Father.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><strong>Who is a liar<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00a0is a rhetorical question that draws out a key distinction between believers and those who left.\u00a0 John does this with three phrases centered around literally:\u00a0 \u201cThe denying\u201d (\u1f00\u03c1\u03bd\u03bf\u03cd\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd\u03bf\u03c2).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<em><strong> the person who denies that Jesus is the Messiah<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The first \u201cdenying\u201d is key for it is what characteristic of a non-believer. \u00a0\u00a0This is more than just a matter of the words; it goes much deeper to the core meaning.\u00a0 Goes to the nature, person, and work of Jesus.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <em><strong>The person who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The second \u201cdenying\u201d functions as a restatement and amplification of the first. There are several things going on here.\u00a0 \u00a0The first is that the Son and the Father are being equated. \u00a0To deny one is to deny the other.\u00a0 Second Jesus is being linked to the Son. This may seem obvious, but it is important to remember that the heretics saw divisions between Jesus, the Christ, and the Father. \u00a0This is what separates groups that are Christian from those who claim to be.\u00a0\u00a0 I do not believe that this includes those in other religions, for the context here is those who left the church.\u00a0 Unlike Jews and pagans (or today, Buddhist, Hindu, Islam, etc.), those who left claimed to be the true followers of Christ. Today this would include groups like the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses.\u00a0 They claim to be true followers of Christ, but they deny the basic biblical teaching concerning the nature, person, and\/or work of Jesus. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<em><strong> No one who denies the Son has the Father.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The third \u201cdenying\u201d is a summary of proto-Gnostic belief and here John is applying these statements to his critics.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>Questions and Discussion<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As can be seen from the shortness of the study, there was a lot of discussion this week and more than I can summarize here. Most of it centered on how and where we should draw the line between Christians and non-Christians in terms of teaching. From 1 John it is pretty clear the dividing line is the person of Jesus Christ.\u00a0 Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses have a view of Jesus that differs significantly from that in the Bible.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>For example, \u00a0while John 1 says that Jesus was \u201cthe word\u201d and in verse one says \u201cthe word was God\u201d the\u00a0\u00a0 Jehovah Witnesses, attempt to avoid this by translating this as \u201cthe word was a god\u201d and then goes on to try and diminish this even further by claiming that \u201ca god\u201d does not really mean what is says, but really means something lesser than a god.<\/p>\n<p>There was also a lot of discussion on how this applies to groups whose view of Jesus is ok, but where we have other disagreements.\u00a0 While many Christians are fairly tolerant of differences such as pre, mid, or post tribulation, many Christians have other beliefs they think are really important.\u00a0 For some differing views of creation are seen as disqualifying.\u00a0 Perhaps one of the most difficult such views centers on the questions about the Bible such as inerrancy.\u00a0\u00a0 While I hold to inerrancy, I do not believe that those who question inerrancy are automatically not Christians.\u00a0 For example, I have a friend who does not accept inerrancy, but whose commitment and relationship to Christ are solid.\u00a0 In fact, I have asked him and he cannot give me any specific errors in the Bible, but he is just not willing to say that the Bible is inerrant.<\/p>\n<p>In short I am not as concerned about most theological views,\u00a0 as I am about two things:\u00a0 What do they say about Jesus, and how is there walk with the Lord.<\/p>\n<p>If you have question or comments about the class, feel free to send me an email at\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:elgin@hushbeck.com\">elgin@hushbeck.com<\/a>\u00a0and be sure to put \u201cEpistles of John\u201d in the header.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.consider.org\/blog\/?p=227\">See here for references and more background on the class<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Scripture taken from the Holy Bible: International Standard Version<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. Copyright \u00a9 1996-2008 by The ISV Foundation. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED INTERNATIONALLY. Used by permission.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.isv.org\/\">www.isv.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Note: Some places I have modify the text from the ISV version. Passages that I have modified have been noted with and * by the verse number and the ISV text is included in a footnote.<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr size=\"1\" noshade=\"noshade\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>Footnotes:<\/p>\n<p>[1]\u00a0 2:22 Or Christ<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-family: Calibri; font-size: x-small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Week 24: \u00a0Mar 18, 2012 Having pointed out to his readers that they have an anointing and know all things, John defines who cannot be trusted. 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