Energion Roundtable Week 6 Responses

Posted By Elgin Hushbeck

This week’s Energion Roundtable question it seems that one thing Arthur Sido, Bob Cornwall,, Allan R. Bevere, Joel Watts and myself all agree on is that this is a real problem and that none of the candidates have a completely satisfactory plan.  As Bevere put it,  “This is truly a complex and serious problem involving a complex and serious answer.”  This is not the sort of thing that can be fully worked out in a campaign.

One question I would have for Watts, Bevere and Cornwall, is just what is Obama’s plan?  The coming collapse in either 2024, (or without the double counting 2016) is based on Obamacare being in place.  Obama may not be proposing to destroy Medicare, but just what is his plan to avoid the coming bankruptcy?

Cornwall writes of the Republican plan that it would turn Medicare,   “into a voucher system, that most experts believe won’t keep up with inflation.”  Watts also questions this saying that it “will sooner than later destroy the safety net for the elderly.” Setting aside Cornwall’s “most experts” comment, that still leaves a question for them: If you do not believe that the government can be trusted to spend the money needed to pay for the “voucher,” what make you think they will spend the money to pay for the coverage?  Medicare already denies coverage at a higher rate than private insurance, and pays far less,such that doctors are ceasing to accept new Medicare patients.   If you cannot find a doctor who will take you as a patient, or if you can, they deny your claim, what good is the current system?

If Government is in complete control, the only way to limit costs is some form of rationing, either though reducing payments, or denying claims.  I know that supporters claim efficacy of a single payer system, but I just do not believe that is actually possible. After all, if government was so good at running health care, Medicare would not be in the mess it is.  And somehow the argument that they made such a mess of things with Medicare, so we should give them all of health care just does not work for me.

Sido rejects both plans, preferring that we block grant Medicare to the states. Romney supports block granting Medicaid, but not Medicare. (“Why” would make a great question for the debates.) While that has some appeal, I prefer the premium support model, as that gives more choice to the individual, and after all this is essentially the same model that Congress has.  

Premium support is only a first step.  There must be additional steps to ensure that people have a real choice and that there is real competition, such as the ability to purchase insurance across state lines, which Romney and Republicans support. (This was a particular problem for our small company when we had employees in both California and Wisconsin.)  If people are given real choice; if there is real competition;  and if the health care system is allowed to explore innovative ways of delivering quality health care services at lower costs, the system will move into balance and inefficiency will be driven out,  just like in all the other areas where market forces are allowed to operat.  With prices under control, the necessary task of dealing with those in need would be far easier.

Sep 25th, 2012
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Energion Roundtable Week 6 Medicare

Posted By Elgin Hushbeck



This week’s Energion Roundtable question with Bob Cornwall, Arthur Sido, Allan R. Bevere, Joel Watts, and myself is:

How would you evaluate the plans that each presidential candidate has for Medicare? Should senior citizens be concerned?

Let me take the last part first:  Should seniors be concerned.  The simple answer is yes.  Quite simply Medicare is going broke. Unless fixed, it will cease to exist in its current form.  According to the last report of the trustees, it will go broke in 2024, but that is if you accept the Obama administration’s double counting in ObamaCare.  If you don’t,  then it will go broke in 2016, and “if you listen to Medicare’s own actuary, Richard Foster, the program’s bankruptcy could come even sooner than that.”  But regardless of the date, it is going broke. The bottom line is that Government has shown itself totally incompetent when it comes to managing this program.

Obama’s plan for Medicare is unclear to me.  His web site promises more coverage for less cost with many services for free. But it was not at all clear how you can take a program going bankrupt, promise many more benefits, and make it fiscally sound.  In addition with a growing number of doctors refusing to even take new Medicare patients, it raises the question of what good is the promise of a free visit, if one cannot find a doctor to accept them as a patient.  In short it sounds like a lot of empty promises.

Romney has a plan that at least attempts to address the structural problems. One may not like the plan.  But at least it is a plan and a plan is better than no plan.  Romney’s plan is a mixture of premium supports and means testing, with “Lower income seniors will receive more generous support to ensure that they can afford coverage; wealthier seniors will receive less support.” A key element of the plan is to introduce competition into the program in an effort to drive down costs.

Herein is the really big difference between the two approaches.  Democrats trust government, Republicans do not.  Sometimes this is distorted into Republicans trust big business, but that is not the case.   In an abstract sense I do not trust business, big or otherwise any more than I trust government, but I do see a huge difference between them.  In a well-run market economy, businesses must compete for my business, thus while they ‘exist to make money’ as l teach in my classes on business, this is the paradox of business for a business that is only interested in money will go out of business very quickly.  To actually make money, or even just to survive, a business must provide a service that customers value and do it better than the competition.  It is the paradox of business that drives innovation to give the customer the best value.

Government does not compete; it mandates.  It does not innovate; it regulates. Rather than a bottom up approach of millions of consumers voting with their individual choices, it is a top down approach where standards of care will be determined by the 15 bureaucrats of the IPAB, whose mandates can only be overridden by a majority of the house, 3/5 vote of the Senate, and then signed by the President.

Supporters of government run health care point how insurance companies deny coverage, but so does government.  In fact Medicare’s rate of denied claims is “more than double any private insurer’s average.” But this takes us back to the big difference.  It is not that conservatives trust business or in this case insurance companies, but they do trust consumers who are given a real choice;  an approach that has repeatedly been demonstrated to work in many areas.

This is not a call to return to the system prior to Obamacare, for it was NOT based on choice and competition and in fact it severely restricted both. There are over 1300 companies providing health insurance in the U.S., many not for profit.   Yet, no one has this many choices.  For most, their choices are limited to the few offered by their employer. In addition there was significant government involvement in health care, through Medicare and other programs and regulations which are negatively impacting the system and driving up costs.

Real positive reform for both health care in general and Medicare in particular would increase choice and competition, and this is the direction in which Romney’ plan moves. It is simply a matter of numbers and freedom. If 1300+ companies are actively seeking better ways to provide health care, and customers are free to choose those who do the best job, than we are much more likely to see better health care at a lower cost, than by waiting for one entity, the government, with a proven track record of inefficiency and mismanagement, to come up with an improved system.

After all, with choice and competition if you don’t like your current provider you can change to some else. With single payer, if you don’t like your current provider, well there is a reason it is called single payer…

Sep 24th, 2012
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Energion Roundtable Week 5 Responses

Posted By Elgin Hushbeck

In their answers to this week’s Energion Roundtable question, Joel Watts and Bob Cornwall, both thought that Romney made a big error and Obama generally did ok, but neither were completely happy  his actions. Arthur Sido thought both were “off-base.”   

Concerning Romney, Sido wrote, “the entire thing smacked of political opportunism.”   Supposedly Romney’s big error was that he criticized the administration for the statement of the embassy. While Watts calls this “error-filled” and questions Romney’s character, Sido shares my view that “Romney was correct in his substance about the initial response from the State Department.”  

Frankly what I find somewhat strange, (but not surprising) is how Romney is criticized for doing what the administration itself did just a short time later;  how Romney is criticized for politicizing this when Obama also has used the opportunity to criticize Romney.  Let me be clear, I am not critical of them for going after Romney, this is what is done in campaigns.   Rather it is the double standard  that I am criticizing, a double standard that seems to surround Obama, (for example going back to 2008  Sarah Palin was attacked as unqualified, but in fact had more experience than Obama).  To me, the main difference has been that while both were critical of the statements of the embassy,  the administration has tried to lay the blame for protests on the video, as if the video was the core problem, something that becomes increasingly doubtful as time goes on and we learn more.

Given this,  I have to wonder how much of Sido’s view was due to Romney’s statement itself, and how much was in the coordinated efforts of nearly all the press to shape the story into just this direction.  Herein lies a major problem that has plagued the right for decades, and which, so far, they have not been able to effectively address.  It is also a major difference between the left and right.

Let me say up front that these are generalizations, i.e., things that are generally true, but not absolutely true and there will be exceptions on both sides.  But exceptions to a general rule does not disprove the rule, they only demonstrate that the rule is a general one, and not absolute.

With that caveat, the general rule is that while the right tends to demonize policies, the left tends to demonize persons.  For, example, while there are fringe elements of the right that question Obama’s place of birth, or try to claim that he is a secret Muslim, or other such silliness, the mainstream conservative view is that while Obama is a nice guy, he is implementing very bad policies.  Thus the main objections surround things like his passage of the Affordable Care Act, aka, ObamaCare; the rapid growth of Government, the exploding deficit, mismanagement of the economy, etc..  

The left, on the other hand, tend to directly attack the person.  Ford was a klutz; Reagan a dumb actor; Bush 41 was elite and out of touch, etc.  Their favorite attacks have been to call those on the right some combination of stupid, greedy, selfish, and uncaring.  For example,  Reagan,  Quayle, Bush 43, and Palin were all labeled dumb.    To support this we are told about the dumb statements they make, some of which come from SNL, rather than the candidate themselves, but such details really do not matter.  Nor does evidence to the contrary.  Nor is similar evidence ever applied to Democrats.  Obama for example, said he had been in 57 states, and Biden… well there is a very long list of such statements, my favorite being a three letter  word  J-0-B-S. While humorous, I do not take these as indications of intelligence, but the simple mistakes anyone is bound to make.  But for some reasons when Republicans do this, it is somehow much more significant.  

When all else fails, the left goes to the big seven and conservatives are labeled with some combination of sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, islamophobic, bigoted, and of course the ever popular racist. When clear evidence of any of this is lacking, which it is because it is not true, this is all justified with talk of code words, and hidden agendas as if the right is some sort of secret society.    

In short those on the right tend to see those on the left as people with good intentions, but with bad policies that don’t work and are often harmful.   Those on the left tend to see those on the right and just bad people.   Look at the number one charge against Romney:  he only cares about the rich.  This, when combined with the media bias,  is why polls consistently show this is a center-right country, but votes for farther to the left than would be expected based on this.

Returning to Romney’s comments I do not believe that it was what Romney objectively said, but how it was subjectively viewed, particularly in the press.  Thus Cornwall spoke of Romney’s “instincts” and what he “seems to have thought.”  This was despite the fact that Romney objectively expressed much the same view as the White House later took, resulting in a charge of dishonestly from Watts.  Cornwall said “Romney showed himself to be ignorant” and “puffs out his chest.”   I am sorry, but while this maybe the coordinated view of the majority of the press coverage, I just do not see any of this in Romney’s actual statement.

I had some agreement and disagreement with a supplement posted by Cornwall.  I believe on the major points we agree; that we are a major power in the world and that isolationism is no longer a viable option and that the resulting decisions we face are very difficult.  While we disagree with many of the details, on the broader question of should we be involved we seem to agree.

One area where I did question Cornwall’s view was with the statement,

“I think that in some ways that innocency has worn off in the intervening years, but there is at least some sense amongst us that we are an innocent nation. That we’re different and special — exceptional — and this leads us at times, as a nation, to fail at self-criticism. We begin to see ourselves as the arm of God. And this poses problems.”

While undoubtedly true at some level, after all no one and no nation is perfect,   I would argue that almost the opposite is true, that rather than failing at self-criticism, that we are instead hyper-critical to the point that at times we fail to see the good that we have done, and could do.    As Bill Bennett put it in his history of America, we should view our history warts and all, and not just the warts.

Sep 20th, 2012
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Energion Roundtable Week 4 Responses – The Military 2

Posted By Elgin Hushbeck

In the ongoing discussion stemming from the week 4’s  Energion Roundtable question,   Arthur Sido,  wrote a long response to my comments on the military.  As we are already posting on week five, I will just address a couple of his question/responses to clarify my position.

Sido asked, “Are the Armed Forces of the United States designed to be a force to project American will around the world or as a primarily defensive force that is intended to counter direct threats to our sovereignty?”

While I believe Sido intended this question to contrast our positions, the problem is that I, like Sido, would argue the latter.   I suspect that the main difference is not in the question above but the underlying assumption behind it.  We have a technologically advance economy that depends on international trade and alliances.  To take just one example, we do have a direct interest in ensuring in freedom of navigation in places like the Straits of Hormuz and the South China Sea.  

One could argue that it should not be this way and we should, for example, be moving to develop our own domestic energy sources, something I would agree with. But wishing the current situation was different does not change it. Nor do I think it is even desirable in all areas and even if it were desirable I do not think it is practical. 

Sido’s analysis of potential threats is a mixture of ridicule, diminishment, and blaming the US.   It is also combined with a moral equivalence that I firmly reject.   This is not to say,  “that our motivations are pure.” At least not always.  But I believe that in the history of the world the United States has held a pretty unique place.  After all, it is pretty hard to find a valid selfish reason for the US to have intervened in Korea and to have kept troops there all these years. But the contrast between North and South Korea makes for a pretty good moral case.

Sido confidently claims “None of the Middle East regimes is going to invade or directly attack America.”  I wish I could believe that.   In one of his more disturbing sentences Sido writes,  “Certainly Iran is working toward nuclear weapons, the same nuclear weapons that we have had for decades and have used on civilian populations in the past.”

He is quite correct.  We did drop two atomic bombs on Japan, an action that ended a war and saved literally millions of lives.  The problem is that there is little if any moral equivalence between America and the Iranian governments.  Iran is a state that actively sponsors terrorism around the world.  More importantly, I believe that if Iran gets a nuclear bomb, they will use it, and have said as much repeatedly.  So while we used atomic weapons to end a war, they will, I believe, use them to start a war, and I do not see these as morally equivalent. 

Sido claims my argument is “difficult” because “When you examine the rhetoric that surrounds even the faintest suggestion of reducing military spending and indeed suggestions that we increase military spending, the “enthusiastic embrace of unlimited military spending” seems to be appropriate.”

I do not see what is so difficult.  For example, the Navy says that we need at least 300 ships to meet the defense needs of the US.  A bipartisan review in 2011 said that we needed 346 ships. Yet since 9/11 we have dropped from 316 down to 282 and look headed to 250.  As Robert Kaplan put it, “There is a big difference between a 346-ship US navy and a 250-ship navy – the difference between one kind of world order and another.”   The difference he lays out is not an encouraging one.   But regardless, asking for a 300-340 ship Navy is not asking for “unlimited military spending.”

Finally Sido is at least partially correct when he claims that “our armed forces are rarely used to ‘defend’ America.”   While I would argue that our defense concerns are much broader that those accepted by Sido, I would agree that our actions have rarely been solely defensive.  Many of the wars we have fought, from Korea and Vietnam, up to the current wars have, at least to some degree, been to resist evil, and this does set America apart.

Most world powers could be classified as evil or indifferent to interests beyond their own.  America has been one of the few powers in history to have fought for the freedom of others. As I Christian, I do not believe that my responsibilities and concern for others in need stops at the border and that we do have a responsibility to resist evil in the world to the extent that we can.  On the other hand, I do not believe we can be the policeman of the world.  Between these two views are very difficult decision with a number of complex considerations and a full examination of these issues goes far beyond the scope of this discussion.  Let me just say that to characterize this as  “enthusiastic support for wars of aggression”  is a gross mischaracterization at best, yet another in a long line of straw men.

Sep 18th, 2012
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RoundTable 5 Middle East Turmoil

Posted By Elgin Hushbeck

This week’s Energion Roundtable question with Bob Cornwall, Arthur Sido, Allan R. Bevere, Joel Watts, and myself is:

Do you approve or disapprove of President Obama’s and Governor Romney’s responses to the violence in Egypt and Libya and now in other countries in the middle east?

One of the problems with reacting to events like this is that information is in flux. Not only does new information come in, but we find much of the early information was just flat out wrong, that is very true here. Thus my comments are based on the information I have as I write, which is on evening of Monday  the 17th

Let me start with Romney.  I judge all such comments by two criteria: truthfulness and prudence.  Concerning truthfulness, I see nothing wrong with Romney’s statement. The state department is under the executive branch and thus speaks for the administration.  Thus at the time of his statement, Romney’s comments about the “Obama administration” reflected what was known at that time.   More importantly I do not think we should be apologizing for our values, but more on that shortly.  Bottom line I find nothing wrong with his statement and a lot right about it.

Still, while I might wish it otherwise, Romney is irrelevant in the current situation.  He is not the President, and thus he has not had any effect on the conditions leading up to these attacks, and cannot affect them now.  Maybe after next January, if he is elected, but the attention really should be on Obama.  Though I must say that the open mike incident with the press, revealed that they coordinate the story line far more than even I believed was the case.

As for Obama, I do not hold him responsible for the statements from the embassy, and applaud his rejection of it.  But, that is about the only good thing I can say about his handling of the situation, and much of what he has done causes me great concern. 

First off, I am disturbed by the attempts to mitigate the situation by condemning the video that allegedly sparked the demonstrations.  I say allegedly because right from the start I doubted that this was the true cause and believed that at best it was a pretext. After all does the administration really expect us to believe that this video that has been on YouTube since July, just happen to be discovered by Muslim on Sept 11?

Thus while Romney was severely criticized for accusing the administration of apologizing for the video,  in one of the strange paradoxes that surround so much of the coverage of Obama, much of what the administration has done since can, I  believe, be put squarely into that category.  Rather than condemning the video and pressuring YouTube to remove it, the President should be defending Freedom of Speech, something he is required to do by his oath of office.

In fact, I am very disturbed that the film maker was taken out of his home in the middle of the night by the police and taken in for questioning. Not exactly what I call standing up for the right of free speech. Then again it is troubling enough that government officials seek to suppress speech.  It is more troubling when they use the military to do so.   If we can have the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff make a call, could we have a squad of Navy Seals make a visit?

What I do think the incident reveals is how out of touch and naïve Obama has been.  With Obama’s detached management style, it should have come as no surprised that he skipped over half of his daily intelligence briefings.   Following this disclosure, the While House claimed that he reads them, but despite their claims, this is just not the same thing. The briefing is not just a one way street, but a time for questions, direction and feedback.  But rather than get the briefing, in the middle of the crisis, Obama felt it was more important to fly off to Vegas for a fundraiser.  No wonder he does not have time for Netanyahu. This detachment becomes increasing important as the evidence grows that we had advanced warnings that were ignored.

Ultimately, this incident is a repudiation of Obama’s Middle East policy, and a confirmation of his critics. The key issue in the Middle East is how to deal with the growing power of radical Islam.  The administration assured us that the Muslim Brotherhood were no longer bad guys and that we should celebrate the Arab Spring.  Unfortunately, the Arab Spring has become the Islamic winter, just like I and many others thought it would. 

There is a simple rule in life that even applies to foreign policy: That which gets rewarded, gets repeated. Islamic extremists attack embassies, kill 4 Americans including our ambassador and so far while there have been some verbal condemnation from the White House, their actions have been to go after those who produced a heretofore obscure video.

What the Obama administration seems to miss is that the real problem is from Arab extremists who claim they represent the Religion of Peace, and who will kill anyone who says otherwise. While Hillary Clinton can say for the administration that “we absolutely reject its content and message” of the video, one as to  wonder if she felt the same way when she attended the Broadway play “The Book of Mormon” which broke new ground in its use of profanity on Broadway. 

One has to wonder, if we are going to limit free speech when it comes to Islam, what about other religions?  Have liberals suddenly reconsidered their view of putting a crucifix in a jar of urine, smearing a painting of the virgin Mary with elephant dung, or depicting Jesus and the apostles as homosexuals?  Somehow I think not.

So what should Obama have done.  While he certainly could, and should, be very diplomatic about it, he should also have been very clear that this is a free country and citizens have the freedom to write, speak, and even make videos that others find offensive. In short, he should have stood up for our freedoms.  Like Romney did.

Sep 17th, 2012
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